Monthly Archives: August 2009

CSers biking to Mount Abu [photos]

Couchsurfers, Ahmedabad embarked on a 2 days bike trip to Mount Abu which is around 230km from Ahmedabad. Group consisted of Alex (from US), Mathieu (France), Bhavesh (Ahd.), Ujjwal (Ahd.), Sreejith (Kerala, nw in Ahd.), Jidhin (Kerala, nw in Ahd.), Leo (Kerala, nw in Ahd.) and Anil (Ahd.). Alex’s friend Sarah too joined us till Abu.
We had an awesome time biking, camping at a forest camp site and then going for 2 amazing treks in small hills out there. Looking out for more such journeys with fellow CSers. You guyz rock 🙂
Useful Information for travellers:
Onward Route we used: Ahmedabad –> Mehsana (thru highway) –> Modhera (Sun temple visit, thru inner roads) –> Patan (Stepwell visit, thru inner roads) –> Sidhipur (thru inner roads) –> Palanpur (thru highway) –> Abu road –> Mt. Abu.
On the way back: Mt. Abu –> Palanpur —> Ahmedabad (Straight highway, heavenly roads. Possible to complete in 4 hours at a stretch with short snack breaks)
Stay at: We erected tarps/tents at Official forest camp site (5km from town) and used sleeping bags to protect from rain. Got sleeping bags and other accessories from Forest officer, Mt. Abu (office near Sunset point).
Would advise to try out this than a hotel. Experience is mindblowing.
Trek : There is a small but amazing trek route trail near camp site. Just goto top of that hill and you will be welcomed by a beautiful lake. Take a dip there and just enjoy with few drinks. Awesome it is.
Also there is a beautiful trek route in the ‘crocodile lake’ point. Just head over to mountain on right side, assure you to have a good rocky trek trail.
Drinks: Mt. Abu is not really a drinker’s paradise contrary to perception. It is not so cheap compared to other states. Stock up drinks before you enter Mt. Abu city to get a comparatively cheap deal. Also do note that all shops are officially closed by 8pm. After that you will have to shell out 30% to get them from behind the doors.

My tryst with faith : Part two

continued from Part one

In this post am trying to articulate how I got fed up of organized religion and why finally I turned agnostic. This is a bit tricky as I never attempted before to stitch those bits and pieces together to trace a logical path to this whole thing.

Let me start with sharing some hypothesis’ which I always deliberated in my mind about ‘Why religion’ & ‘Why God’ ?. Am sure some of you would also have thought about this in similar fashion.

1) When you try to think or examine the root of all religions, you will reach at same starting point. Most were started as an off shoot of 1 person who by all means was powerful and was god send. Entire foundation is then built over this one holy concept. Now for time-being am going to assume that this concept is man-made. Then what happens ? Immediately your ‘religious identity’ will be wiped off. Coz you were told that you were born to  X & Y, who belonged to an XY religion whose forefathers belonged to an XY religion which originated from an AB person. The moment first person (here AB) becomes non-existent, the entire lineage loses its identity. Then the implication would be that, a ‘human’ is born to X & Y as opposed to ‘a hindu or ‘a christian’ is born. Who will then be the victims of these identity crisis ? It can’t be us. We will still be identifiable with our skillset or nature of work or something else. But a sect will become identity-less immediately. They are the custodians of these concepts, the so called Priests / Pujaris in each religion. It is in their best interest that ‘GOD’ should exist, else ‘Religions’ cant exist and subsequently they themselves can’t exist. Best way to protect this from not happening is to package it in such by which it instills fear in everyone’s mind and hence every unknown facts were attributed to an unknown entity and called it God.

2) Next is about thinking religion as ‘Founded by God’. This is under the impression that God is a Megalomaniac. She is the one, the omnipresent and she created the universe. She also created some creatures called them humans so that she can enjoy seeing them living, making love, kicking,  fighting and killing each other. If they dont kill each other, she is gonna weed them out anyways as she likes variety in life and no repetition of faces. Being a Megalomaniac, she wants everyone to worship her. Wants to remember her name every day/hour/minute/second. If those creatures fall into trouble she want them to call her name so loud and so continuous that ‘if’ she happens to hear it, their needs will be met. If not they live and die, she wont give a damn. May be she will give a damn and punish them for not remembering her. Thts wht the scripture says after all… On the judgement day, frying the left sided people in a hot oil pan.

Now dont you think this is the nastiest a God could get ?. I mean, if I were God, I would leave heaven and runaway to some remote jungle. Imagine, you make people call your name 24×7 just coz you wanna feel good and those poor souls are doing that as they are shit scared of you. Cant be worst.

3) Last is the most common justification given by people who dont wanna sound superstitious and want a logic for everything. i.e Organized religion makes humans disciplined. So according to them, seeing the immoral, unethical, unorganized life of our fore forefathers a genius devised a tool called religion and attributed its power to a non-existent entity called God. Some smart people might have devised it to scare people off doing crimes, to bring some order into their lives. Sounds good and logical. To an extent I believe this too. But if it is so, how come they allow some sect of people to exploit this. How did such a noble concept got slipped into wrong hands and it started creating different castes, barriers, superstitious rituals in the society ?. There should have been someone who knew this whole idea and who would have tried to stop it ?

But all said and done, I believe organized religion has many benefits. I am not so naive to think that entire world will become enlightened enough to behave normally without the fear-factor. So definitely it works for a majority, but there is also a minority who behave morally, ethically and lead a disciplined life devoid of fearing the omnipresent. At least I believe so. Morality based on fear seems a crude concept to me.

Truth remains that none has a clue. All are hypothesis and none are validated. To our misfortune, none has come back from heaven/hell to tell about the story there. So lets stay ignorant.

I absolutely have no qualms with any of these concepts. If I consider religion as a legal commercial activity or a business and if people are confidently willing to invest both time and money in that business looking at prospective substantial returns, a person like me should not have any problem with that.

As in case with most businesses only people who run the show has any actual idea about its working and all other shareholders out there are only interested in its returns and nothing more. Fair enough. But my problem starts when that ‘business’ is being exploited as a platform for selfish motives, just coz it provides a good camouflage. 

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if they had functioned fairly to everyone.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if it were not used for vote bank politics.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if it were not used to amass insane amounts of money. (and not used ‘just’ for the needed)

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if people hadn’t use it to kill others to attain power.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if its authorities had expelled the wrong doers amongst themselves with immediate effect.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if they hadn’t allowed a sect of people to use its name as a reason for killing people from other religions.

I wouldn’t have had any problem with religions if they acted more like an NGO and less like an ‘Inc.’

To a great extent all religions goofed up. They screwed up life on earth in a big way. On whatever noble concept where they founded, as  of now organized religion is doing more harm than good. On one hand they proclaim themselves pro-life and on other hand they give freedom to some fanatics insiders to take non-believer’s lives. On one hand they proclaim they are the custodians of chastity and on other hand they themselves pry on little kids & women to quench their pervert repressed thirst. On one hand they say stop war, dont kill and on other hand they will do anything to protect ‘their brand’, and if it takes some lives, they will call them martyrs.

Now many people justify this by saying, ‘an act of a single person cant be taken as representative of the entire community’. Humans remains as humans and we cant expect them to behave ideally every time. But let me ask, will a snowflake in an avalanche ever be responsible ? This is precisely how it is being exploited. People who are nothing when they are alone, create groups so that they can do whatever they want to in the name of that group.

I was not sure if I were doing the right thing, but I wanted to get out of this madness and look at it as an outsider. That’s what am doing right now. Observing it as an outsider, jumping in whenever I think I can make a contribution, criticizing without bias whenever I feel things are not moving in right direction. It feels great, surprisingly light and freedom to be on your own. No more reporting to clouds or thanking the unknown.

Atheism is equally fanatic and it is dangerous. People who proclaim there is no god will never be able to prove it. It is about proving 0 is actually 0, you cant do that. In pursuit of doing it, they unknowingly become fanatic. I dont want to be part of it, hence I stay agnostic. It’s a beautiful word, a – gnostic (knowledge), unaware of knowledge. You declare you are unaware of anything and just live your life. The advantage of this approach is that you are never blind ‘to faith’ or ‘against faith’. You keep your eyes & ears open for others to convince you that you were wrong.

Am waiting for that day, just like that 🙂

I purposefully haven’t touched the topics of ‘Zen, Osho and Zeitgeist’. This itself got into many pages and hence am stopping here.

Will share in coming posts about how the vacuum created by non-belief was filled in by Zen.

Thanks for taking the pain to read. Appreciate it.

P.S: Using She instead of He, is coz am just bored of people addressing God as He. Why cant ‘it’ be She ?… She= Creation, He=Destruction..ryt ?

My tryst with faith : Part one

This is an attempt to record my own thought process on faith at this point of my life. Posting it as a blog to get some more clarity from you, readers.

In the matter of faith, I always used to be in extremes. Upto 18 years, I never even had an iota of doubt about the existence of the omnipresent. Yes, there were conflicts in my mind, there were things which I never got answer for, but it was all after taking that one point as ‘implied’. As any church going christian I also used to have a rosary on my neck and I always kissed it, prayed to Mother Mary before embarking on any important work.

There used to be time when I used to attend church holy masses on a daily basis and then one day (around 11 years) I joined the Altar boys at church. I used to believe, I was amongst the chosen ones and always did each work trusted upon me with due diligence and care. Always when the part in the holy mass came, where it says ‘Now let your prayers raise upto God’ , I used to think of the most important ‘needs’ (read prayers here) exactly at that minute imagining that those would actually raise upto God at that point in time. I was blind, totally succumbed to faith. I had so much belief in them. Never ever it crossed in my mind that there could be a chance of God being non-existent. It was next to impossible in my little mind. Being an altar boy made me closer to Bible. I easily covered a major part of new testament in those days and I found those narrations very vivid and interesting. During those days, dad also brought home colored books of Mahabharatha, Ramayana and Eliad. Got so hooked into those, that I read them over and over again. Now when I look back, I remember to having found striking similarities in the stories and narrations in between all these books. But somehow I never took them seriously and brushed aside as mere coincidences. Imagine the surprise I had when I saw those striking similarities being explained by Zeitgeist after so many years.

Unlike many other states in India, Kerala is a place where religions co-exist with harmony, literally. People dont stay in separate places based on their religious identity, neither there is any kind of discrimination based on that. May be that’s why for about 18 years, I was blissfully ignorant about the whole issue of religions. Living in Delhi for few years and then in Ahmedabad for past 3 years, make me realize every passing day that am different here. Yea, there is no direct discrimination but it is not like how I used to feel back in Kerala.

This ignorance or purposeful carelessness about religions came crumbling to ground after attending a Jesus Youth retreat (my first and only retreat). It was a new experience and to say the least it was nice. I remember it so clearly coz on that fateful day Tsunami struck Kerala taking many lives. The very next day I got to hear many first hand testimonials from people who had miraculous escapes from clutches of death. Everyone praising God’s plans and his secret selections. (wish there were some of the dead too, so that we could hear the other side of story :P). Same day I was given the option to attend a ‘Grace counselling’ (meeting with a divine person). He was a man in his late 40’s who sat with a ‘divine’ look in his face. Without me uttering a single word, he narrated my entire family history, some of my personal problems (which I never shared) and asked me to open random pages to read random passages which he claimed would contain answers to my problems. To my surprise, some of them actually were bang on. I was impressed. But it didnt last long. I narrated my interests in sitting inside old temples (just coz I love the peacefulness out there), how I visited Guruvayoor temple twice and totally loved the experience.At Kerala, my home is near to a temple. For 19 years, I woke up in the morning listening to ‘Gayatri Mantra’. I got used to it so much so that, waking up without hearing it used to make me restless. I just love it. But he was not amused hearing it. He told me not to visit temple again because 1) Temple is for Hindus and not for christians. (sad but true in Kerala as non-hindus are not allowed inside) 2) The salvation is only through Christ, need not enquire it anywhere else. I ignored 1st point, but got stuck with second. Hence I asked him, what about my best friend who is a hindu, does it mean, he would never get salvation ? I was being very naive, but he was smart. According to him, my best friend will find Jesus one day and attain salvation. To be frank I found it BullShit. It sounded bizarre to me.

I knew he was bluffing, so I left that day itself and had the same conversation with my uncle (who is a priest, a theologist and an amazing human being). He cleared my doubts saying, those are just tricks by so called ‘retreat mongers’ and never heed to it. Those are just 1 amongst thousands, and ignoring them is important.

That struck a chord with me, I started getting doubts about, Why so much confusion amongst authorities in religions ? Why so many different teachings ? Why so many conflicting interpretations ? Why people ‘market’ religion ? and finally the million dollar question, Is there a God or is it too a man-made concept ?

I left it there. Was too busy with my college that I hardly did any soul searching. But it had an impact on me. I started taking my religious life lightly. Missing a sunday mass was no more over-burdening. I was slowly moving away from being religious, still being spiritual. As someone said, was realizing that ‘Religion is a bureaucracy between man and god which I didnt need’. It took me years to actually understand that ‘Religions are driven by clear economical & political motives and there is no place for God in them’.

These thoughts were cemented by 3 types of speeches I got to encounter.

1) During my brief stint in Kochi, I used to live in some interior streets in dark pockets out there. My very first face-off with fanaticism started from there. Every friday evening a ‘mullah’ used to come and address the muslim brethren in that area, in the name of giving spiritual discourse. But it was more of spiritual bashing of other religions and less to do with God. Though people were very sensitive & careful about such ‘mullahs’ and never invited them again, but this used to continue still.

2) After a stand off between government and church in Kerala on some educational institute issue, every sunday masses in our locality were used as a platform to propagate church’s stupid, illogical and insensitive ideologies to cover up their misproportions of funds. They were literally using their religious strength to muster and play vote bank politics. I got to face fanaticism from a different perspective.

3) Third was my daily encounters with various shades of fanaticism in Gujarat. Problem here is that it is taken for granted. Nobody really cares if Modi or someone from RSS makes a speech filled with inflammatory words. Religion is so ingrained to people’s minds here that literally anybody can play with it and political parties just make use of it, be it BJP or Congress.

Inspite of losing confidence in religions, I continued praying. For me prayers were never a burden and I found solace in them after I was told that prayers are not about asking for your needs, but to have a conversation with God. That was the end of praying for ‘getting more marks in exam’ or ‘asking for a car as gift’ type prayers. Though it was more of a monologue with god and never a dialogue, I believed that one day heaven will open up and god will talk to me. (Oh yea, i actually thought 😀 ). Life went on without me crediting or debiting any of the happenings in my life with God. She remained as a ‘feel-good’ concept in my mind and I never bothered to tinker with it.

It stayed dormant in my mind and I took it in its stride. Coming to Ahmedabad made it active. Not because there is such a dis-harmony between religions exist here, but it made me think about why such an incident took place in an otherwise fantabulous place. Ahmedabad is truly one of the best places I’ve lived in my life and that is mostly to do with the people who resides here. They are smart, cooperative and very receptive to people from outside (unlike many other states). Yet 2002 riots happened here. For me its a matter of concern, and I wanted some convincing answers. Am not getting into those right now, as that is not topic of discussion today.

After coming here 2 things happened in my life. 1) I started reading more of OSHO (one of the most mis-interpreted genius in last century) compilations. 2) I happened to watch Zeitgeist. Both changed my view points forever and my perspectives became more wider. From being very religious to being only spiritual and then to stay as agnostic, it took many years.

Will share my experiences after that, in coming posts.